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OPML Podcast

It's all about the draft OPML 2.0 spec and a few other things thrown in such as structured blogging, OPML tools, namespaces and microformats.

We had Adam along today as he's been experimenting with OPML in recent months at his Darwinian Web blog. John Tropea also joined us...John runs the Library clips blog where he has been documenting, extensively, the various OPML experiments and tools that have emerged over the last year.

As usual, show notes below. Enjoy!

The podcast (.mp3, 58 min, 13mb) can be downloaded here, show notes below.

OPML 2.0 Podcast - Alex Barnett, Joshua Porter, Adam Green and John Tropea

• Intros
• On the Dave Winer's announcement of the OPML 2.0 Draft - Good? bad? ugly?
• Data types within OPML (08:30)
• Namespaces in OPML (11:30)
• Attention, Attention.xml, namespaces and OPML (13:30)
• David on Adam, Adam on OPML and Annotated Reading Lists (19:45)
• Structured data within OPML, , Grazr, and Microsoft with OPML (24:15)
• OPML Tools: Bitty Browser, Grazr mini, Optimal OPML Browser, OPod and OPML Renderer (30:00)
• My Bio as an Outline, The Software I Use and Declarative Living (34:30)
• OPML, Structured Blogging and Microformats and Namespaces aren't mutually exclusive (36:45)
• What are biggest problems are technologies solving? (42:45)
• Michael Arrington's Edgeio, structured blogging, my data and distributed data (45:00)
• OPML Camp and who's coming (54:30)

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Tags: OPML RSS,  attention.xml, microformats, Attention, structured blogging, technology, web podcast,

Microformats Podcast

Here's a great podcast for you. All about microformats...

Joining me are Tantek Çelik, Dan Connolly and Rohit Khare. I think it's safe to say these guys know a thing or two about the web and microformats.

As usual, show notes and link to download below.

Enjoy.

Background

Last week I met with Tantek Çelik and the Mix06 event in Las Vegas where he, Marc Canter and Joshua Allen organized a Structured Blogging and Microformats 'birds of a feather' non-official event after the main sessions were over.

Tantek and I met up the next day and agreed we should get a podcast together on the topic of microformats.  I asked him to invite a couple of others along for the call and he arranged for Dan Connolly and Rohit Khare to were kind enough to join us, two people who have also been intimately involved with the development of this exciting new area of microformats.

The Guests

Tantek Çelik is CTO at Technorati. Prior to his current role, Tantek was representative to the W3C for Microsoft where he also helped lead the development of Internet Explorer for Macintosh. He also spent four year at Apple and has been instrumental (along with others) in making microformats what is today.

Dan Connolly is Technical Staff at W3C, where he edited the HTML 2.0 specification with Tim Berners-Lee, was chair of the W3C Working Group that produced HTML 3.2 and HTML 4.0 and collaborated with Jon Bosak to form the W3C XML Working Group and produce the W3C XML 1.0 Recommendation. Dan is also very involved with the W3C's Semantic Web initiatives (RDF, OWL and SPARQL). Dan blogs too.

Rohit Khare is Director of CommerceNet Labs, a non-profit investigating and promoting decentralized electronic commerce. Rohit started KnowNow in 2000 after working at the W3C during the 90's and is today working with the microformats folks as part of his work at CommereNet Labs.

Huge thanks to Tantek, Dan and Rohit for their time.

So, on to the podcast (under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License)...

Download

Microformats Podcast - (51 mins, .mp3, 12mb)

Show Notes

• Introduction
• What are microformats and history? (5:30)
• The 'we' in microformats: microformats community, wiki, mailing lists (10:30)
• Why bother? What's in it for whom? What do we have to gain with microformats? (13:30)
  • Less effort, more benefits
• Scenarios - the soccer season (21:00)
• The schema design philosophy - Microformats are based on real world examples (26:50)
• The evolution of microformats (30:00)
  • If there a hundred microformats, something has gone wrong
  • Widely adopted Link microformats: (rel tag).
  • Compound microformats: hCard implementations (sharing contact info) and hCalendar implementations (sharing schedules)
  • Experimentation - Remixed microformats: hReview and Listing examples
  • Making the simple things easy
• Interop with other formats (34:00)
• Ray Ozzie's Live Clipboard demo (screencasts) and microformats  - the cut and paste (semantic) web (37:00)
  • Microformats-REST
  • Pasting 'live' and RSS-enabled network pipe system
  • Tantek's Updates - Live syndication and packaging of data formats
• Getting the semantic web. What does it mean? What does it enable? (46:00)
  • Microformats - an onramp onto the semantic web future
• Final thoughts (48:30)
• End (51:00)

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Find out more about microformats:

• microformats community and wiki
• join the microformats mailing lists

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Tags: microformats, semantic-web, technology, web, podcast, web 2.0